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None just told me to wait. I have testimonials from many friends who have done the same to them, and it always happens when you win a "considerable" amount of money.

To deposit my money I used my Mercado Pago account, depositing can be done without any problem. Then I played and I got to win a lot of money and it wouldn't let me make 2 withdrawals at the same time. Something very strange since I have been a MyStake client for quite some time and before, it was possible to make more than one withdrawal order at the same time without any problem.

I tell you that they do this so that you keep betting until you lose everything, I fell. I kept playing and lost everything I wanted to retire. Also know that a friend of mine did something very similar and ended up losing 1500 USD, which for me is a lot of money.

I hope there was some way to recover the money I lost because they didn't let me withdraw in the time I wanted to withdraw.

Greetings.

Ninguna solo me decían que espere. Tengo testimonios de mucha gente amiga que les han hecho lo mismo, y siempre pasa cuando ganas una cantidad "considerable" de dinero.

Para depositar mi dinero utilicé mi cuenta de Mercado Pago, depositar se puede sin ningún problema. Luego jugué y llegue a ganar bastante dinero y no me dejaba hacer 2 retiros a la vez. Algo muy raro ya que soy cliente de MyStake hace bastante tiempo y antes se podía sin ningún problema hacer más de una orden de retiro al mismo tiempo.

Les comento que esto lo hacen para que sigas apostando hasta perderlo todo, yo caí. Seguí jugando y perdí todo lo que quería retirarme. Sepan también que a un amigo mio le hicieron algo muy parecido y terminó perdiendo 1500 USD, lo cual para mi es mucho dinero.

Espero hubiera alguna forma de recuperar el dinero que perdí culpa de que no me dejaron retirar en el tiempo que yo quería retirar.

Saludos.

I add something else, I don't know if it was pure coincidence (I doubt it) or that withdrawals were never really going to be enabled for me, but when I lost all the money I wanted to withdraw, the transaction that was being processed was completed 😂, and therefore So much so, it already lets me withdraw again, just now that I already lost my money. They are crooks MyStake Casino

Agrego algo más, que no se si fue pura casualidad (lo dudo) o que realmente no me iban a habilitar nunca los retiros pero cuando perdí todo el dinero que quería retirar se terminó de completar la transacción que se estaba procesando 😂, y por lo tanto ya me deja retirar de nuevo, justo ahora que ya perdí mi dinero. Son unos ladrones Casino MyStake

Hello, everything is more than explained, it does not pay, it is a lot that I lost not only there also in 1win which less than less pays nothing, second they say that they do not manipulate the % and from what I see yes, in this casino in Mystake I always play the same as in many others and it is the only one that does not pay by buying or obtaining the bonus in plays which takes a long time and a lot of expense, I really do not understand why they defend these casinos or speak so well when I see many youtuber paid by such pages and other people who say they see a lot won and the truth is I don't believe them at all because to win what they won and surely in dollars I don't play in dollars I play in Argentine pesos they are Argentine and it is impossible to get dollars for that I just play in Argentine pesos, that a bonus x1000 page 100 or 200 Argentine pesos seems like a joke to me or to obtain a bonus in the course of the game x100 or x125 that does not pay what it should pay nor does it correspond to the percentages that they say or give to the When talking to game support they don't give a solution they always say the same thing that they regret that a bad perception of the platform takes me to see not paying never seems very strange to me so what would be the answer they give here the same as always.

Hola, esta todo mas que explicado, no paga, es mucho lo que perdí no solo ahí también en 1win el cual menos que menos paga nada, segundo ellos dicen que no manipulan los % y por lo que veo si, en este casino en Mystake juego siempre el mismo como en muchos mas y es el único que no paga comprando o obteniendo el bonus en jugadas lo cual tarde mucho tiempo y mucho gasto, la verdad no entiendo porque defienden a estos casinos o hablan tan bien cuando veo muchos youtuber pagados por tales paginas y otras personas que dicen a ver ganado mucho y la verdad no les creo para nada porque para ganar lo que ganaron y seguro que en dólares yo no juego en dólares juego en pesos Argentinos son Argentino y es imposible obtener dólares por eso solo juego en pesos Argentinos, que un bonus x1000 page 100 o 200 pesos Argentinos me parece una tomada de pelo o obtener bonus en la marcha del juego x100 o x125 que tampoco pague lo que debería pagar tampoco corresponde a los porcentajes que ellos dicen o dan a la hora de hablar con el soporte del juego no dan una solución siempre dicen lo mismo que lamentan que me lleve una mala percepción de la plataforma a ver no pagar nunca me parece bastante extraño mucho entonces cual seria la respuesta que dan acá la misma de siempr.

And as if that were not enough, you did not answer this anymore. I mean that they defend casinos like Mystake and 1win, let's see, last night I played again and nothing, I get a x100 or more bonus and it does not pay what a machine should pay when a game comes out bonus for that amount is crazy, the first time I see something like this and more in that type of virtual machines in which I always play, mainly Gate Of Olympus the truth is 0 nothing at all and not to mention a maxwin that apparently does not know what it is It is not even what it means if not something they would have answered, it is a scam on people, they know perfectly well that Argentines cannot play that easily on pages you can only with dollars and cryptocurrencies so why do they not say things as they are in see answer with lies and tell the truth about the scams they are doing in online casinos that are manipulating the RTP that this has been happening for a long time and that the maxwin is 1 time every thousand years a shame that none of these pages that say they are not paying anything They are one of the best, a shame.

y como si fuera poco no contestaste mas a esto me refiero con que defienden a los casinos como Mystake y 1win a ver, anoche volví a jugar y nada, saco bonus x100 o mas y tampoco paga lo que debería pagar una maquina que cuando sale un bonus por esa cantidad es una locura, primera ves que veo algo así y mas en ese tipo de maquinas virtuales en las que juego siempre, principalmente Gate Of Olympus la verdad 0 nada de nada y ni hablar de un maxwin que aparentemente no saben lo que es ni lo que significa si no algo hubieran contestado, es una estafa a las personas , saben perfectamente que los Argentinos no podemos jugar así de fácil en paginas solo se puede con dólares y criptomonedas entonces porque no dicen la cosas como son en vede contestar con mentiras y decir la verdad de las estafas que están haciendo en los casinos online que están manipulando los RTP que eso viene pasando hace rato ya y que los maxwin es 1 ves cada mil años una vergüenza que no estén pagando nada ninguna de estas paginas que dicen que son de las mejores una vergüenza.

It may be just an ordinary delay, some workers may be out for holidays perhaps - well, who knows.

If you are convinced the casino is trying to prolong the withdrawal, do not play. Stop playing, and if you struggle longer than usual, submit a complaint.

Sadly, there is nothing more I can provide.

The point is not to lose the balance in the meantime - otherwise, we will never have a chance to investigate. 🙁

This is unfortunate, and I empathize with your opinion because under such circumstances it sounds convincing 🙁.

But as said before, no balance means no way to confront the casino. They can easily say they were about to send the money, but you lost the balance right before the final confirmation was made.

The only working solution is to keep the balance and wait patiently, plus creating the compalaint. 🙁

Be sure I know exactly how that sounds...

All has been said, I agree yet it is just an opinion.

I hope you understand that unless anybody clearly proves the casino is actually manipulating games or applying other unfair practices this is all just an assumption.

If you can prove anything you mentioned above, please do so by sending an email right here:

data@casino.guru

It is not defending, we aim to stay neutral untill the guild is obviously proven, yet I empathize with you.

By the way, I suggest you read this post - it's about streamers playing with fake money:

https://es.casino.guru/foro/temas-generales-sobre-juego/streamers-de-casino-y-discusion-de-saldo-falso

The question is that for you to realize what I am mentioning about RTP manipulation, it cannot be that I get bonuses x100 or more and no one pays or that I buy bonuses in a row for the same amount and do not pay them either. It could be that, I lose every deposit I make, I never have a concrete profit and if there is someone who really did win a considerable profit, I honestly can't believe it anymore because since I played on this platform I haven't been paid even once, it's a Shame on this, I would like to record a bonus or more bonuses so you can see what I'm talking about, I'm not a youtuber and I don't want to be either and I'm a player for many years and I've never, ever seen anything like this or similar that comes out of bonuses this way and what none of them pay them accordingly, not only did I not recover anything but when I made a withdrawal it was for very little because it was not even a profit but it was much less than what I had lost which I lost a lot too much and I still see that I did not it returns nothing, if I buy a x10 bonus that takes 1000 Argentine pesos and I return 200 pesos or less it is a shame, then when bonuses come out x100 that if I bought it it would be 10,000 Argentine pesos and that I pay only 1000 is a shame or the multipliers don't They come out when it corresponds too, what I buy is more than what comes into play and he doesn't pay for them either, maybe he gives me the same amount, nothing more than that, but he doesn't pay for those that are x100 or more, that's an abuse

la cuestión es que para que ustedes se den cuenta de lo que yo les estoy mencionando sobre la manipulación de los RTP, no puede ser que obtenga bonus x100 o mas y ninguno pague o que compre bonus seguidos por el mismo valor y tampoco los pague no puede ser eso, cada deposito que hago lo pierdo nunca tengo una ganancia concreta y si hay alguien que en verdad gano una ganancia considerable sinceramente ya no lo puedo creer porque desde que juego en esta plataforma a mi no me pago ni 1 sola ves es una vergüenza esto, me gustaría grabar un bonus o mas bonus para que vean de lo que estoy hablando, yo no soy youtuber y tampoco quiero serlo y soy jugador de muchos años y jamás jamasss vi algo así o similar que salen bonus de esta forma y que ninguno los paga como corresponde, no solo no recupere nada si no que cuando hice un retiro fue por muy poco porque ni siquiera era ganancia si no que era mucho menos de lo que había perdido lo cual perdí bastante ya demasiado y todavía veo que no me devuelve nada , si compro un bonus x10 que me saca 1000 pesos Argentinos y me devuelvo 200 pesos o menos es una vergüenza, luego que salgan bonus x100 que si lo comprar seria 10.000 pesos Argentinos y que pague solo 1000 es una vergüenza o los multiplicadores no salen cuando corresponde también, es mas lo que compro que lo que sale en juego y tampoco los paga quizás me da el mismo monto nada mas que eso pero los que son x100 o mas no los paga es una abuso eso

The same thing keeps happening and no one says anything it's a joke they just say bad luck bad luck that the casino doesn't pay I played several times several deposits and it's only a loss they keep everything I don't get any kind of profit it's the purpose they have for To say that, when are they going to stop lying and stop defending the casino and denounce them accordingly, since everyone here complains, I call on everyone to denounce this casino, which is a complete scam because if not, something even minimal would win but it doesn't stay the same, it's not about bad luck anymore, it's about what it is, I was about to win the bonuses that I won and they still don't pay a shame.

sigue pasando lo mismo y nadie dice nada es broma solo dicen mala suerte mala suerte de que el casino no paga volví a jugar varias veces varios depósitos y solo es perdida se quedan con todo no obtengo ningún tipo de de ganancia es al propósito que tienen para decir a eso, cuando se van a dejar de mentir y dejar de defender al casino y denunciarlos como corresponde, ya que acá todos se quejan convoco a todos a denunciar este casino que es una completa estafa porque lo es si no algo aunque sea mínimo ganaría pero no sigue igual ya no se trata de mala suerte si no de lo que es, estuve apunto de ganar los bonus que gane y que siguen sin pagar una vergüenza.

Many casinos do reduce the RTP, one I know of that does this (there is evidence) is Roobet, they drastically reduce the return on games, specifically on Pragmatic games. I myself have seen and bet on games that have the return severely reduced, the most recent case is Hacksaw's Plinko on Metaspins, the game originally has an RTP of 98.98% and in that casino they have it reduced to around 94%, which which is crazy, other casinos do offer it with the original RTP.

I can't guarantee anything about this casino and the return they choose for the games, but if you feel that they are reduced you should not play there, because you are most likely correct.

Muchos casinos sí reducen el RTP, uno que conozco y hace esto (hay pruebas) es Roobet, reducen drásticamente el retorno de los juegos, específicamente en los juegos de Pragmatic. Yo mismo he visto y apostado en juegos que tienen el retorno severamente reducido, el caso mas reciente es el Plinko de Hacksaw en Metaspins, el juego originalmente tiene un RTP de 98.98% y en ese casino lo tienen reducido a alrededor del 94%, lo que es una locura, otros casinos sí lo ofrecen con el RTP original.

No puedo asegurar nada sobre este casino y el retorno que eligen para los juegos, pero si sientes que están reducidos no deberías jugar ahí, porque muy probablemente estés en lo correcto.

It's just that bro it can't be that the same thing always happens, I've been playing GATE OF OLYMPUS for years, a game that I love but the truth is I don't know what's going on, it's not paying anything at all, I get bonuses for x100 and more and no bonus pays them and If it pays, it only pays 1, then it never pays and I'm not talking about a good pay, a mediocre pay at x100, crazy, it doesn't return or anything at all, that's why I say that the RTP are very manipulated, when you send them a message telling them that, they immediately give you a link for you to open and there are the percentages that are not, as they say, nothing to see but nothing to see, then games like BONANZA that should also pay don't do it either and I'm talking about bonus x100 and it doesn't pay it makes me very angry that nobody wants to do anything, last night I played again and the same thing is still happening and let's not even talk about a MAXWIN thing that never happened to me in life, if a Chilean friend won 20 thousand dollars in 1win that came out 1 only 1 MAXWIN time, the MAXWIN is something unique and those of us who know about this know what a MAXWIN is, something that has never happened to me in any casino, but never ever and I keep waiting for it to happen but I really don't know what happens.

es que bro no puede ser que siempre pase lo mismo, yo años jugando GATE OF OLYMPUS un juego que me encanta pero la verdad no se que pasa que no esta pagando absolutamente nada, agarro bonus por x100 y mas y no los paga ningún bonus y si paga paga 1 solo luego no paga jamás y no hablo de paga buena una paga mediocre al x100 una locura no devuelve ni nada de nada por eso digo que los RTP están muy manipulados, cuando les mandas un mensajes diciéndoles eso enseguida te dan un link para que abras y ahí están los porcentajes que encima no son como lo dicen nada que ver pero nada que ver, luego juegos como los de BONANZA que también deberían pagar tampoco lo hacen y hablo de bonus x100 y no los paga me da mucha rabia que nadie quiera hacer nada, anoche volví a jugar y sigue pasando lo mismo y ni hablemos de un MAXWIN cosa que jamas en la vida me paso , si un chileno amigo gano 20mil dólares en 1win que le salió 1 sola ves 1 MAXWIN, el MAXWIN es algo único y los que sabemos sobre esto sabemos lo que es un MAXWIN cosa que jamassss en ningún casino me paso nunca pero nunca jamás y sigo esperando que pase pero la verdad no se que pasa.

You don't need to be a youtube in order to record a vide of your gameplay. Additionally, you say that when you buy a bonus for let's say 1000 pesos, you win 200 or less back. If this is something that happens to you all the time, that would mean your RTP isn't even close to what it should be.

Have you tried to contact the casino and ask them what's your average RTP since you started to play there?

Yes, if you pay, you don't pay very little, I never had a real profit, getting a 100x bonus and paying nothing is crazy and if I speak several times, it's more. Now I'm going to send them again and I'm going to leave what they have here, it's a shame This is what they give me every time I ask for something that has to do with RTP, I had to translate it since there are no Latinos, it's all in English

Fairness and RNG Test Methods

The Random Number Generator (RNG) is at the heart of the game's functionality and player confidence in game outcomes and fairness. The company has tested and certified various random number generators by a licensed accredited laboratory.

The source code review verified that the RNG implementation is in accordance with the technical requirements. This includes, but is not limited to:

a) Identification of the algorithm;

b) Internal state security, seeding and reseeding, thread security;

c) Scaled for instant play.

Our comprehensive RNG tests assess the statistical randomness, unpredictability, and non-repeatability of the RNG.

Random Number Generators or RNGs are programs installed in all of our casino games, reinforcing the fact that all outcomes are still random. These games cannot be predicted or manipulated, no matter what.

The underlying concept of provable fairness is that players have the ability to test and verify that their results are fair and not rigged.

The commitment scheme is used to ensure that the player has influence on all the results generated.

The company hopes to bring an easy, enjoyable and transparent gaming environment directly to your computer or mobile device.

si si paga no paga muy poco, nunca tuve una ganancia real obteniendo bonus x100 y que pague nada es una locura y si hable varias veces es mas ahora voy a mandarles de nuevo y por aca les voy a dejar lo que ellos tienen es una verguenza , esto es lo que me dan cada ves que les pido algo que tenga que ver con RTP , tuve que traducirlo ya que no hay latinos es todo en ingles

Métodos de prueba de imparcialidad y RNG

 El generador de números aleatorios (RNG) es el corazón de la funcionalidad del juego y la confianza del jugador en los resultados y la equidad del juego. La empresa ha probado y certificado varios generadores de números aleatorios por parte de un laboratorio acreditado con licencia.

La revisión del código fuente verificó que la implementación del RNG está de acuerdo con los requisitos técnicos. Esto incluye, pero no se limita a:

a) Identificación del algoritmo;

b) Seguridad de estado interno, siembra y resiembra, seguridad de hilos;

c) Escalado para juego instantáneo.

 Nuestras exhaustivas pruebas del RNG evalúan la aleatoriedad estadística, la imprevisibilidad y la no repetibilidad del RNG.

 Los generadores de números aleatorios o RNG son programas instalados en todos nuestros juegos de casino, lo que refuerza el hecho de que todos los resultados siguen siendo aleatorios. Estos juegos no se pueden predecir ni manipular, pase lo que pase.

El concepto subyacente de equidad demostrable es que los jugadores tienen la capacidad de probar y verificar que sus resultados son justos y no manipulados.

El esquema de compromiso se utiliza para garantizar que el jugador tenga influencia en todos los resultados generados.

La compañía espera brindar un entorno de juego fácil, agradable y transparente directamente a su computadora o dispositivo móvil.

One thing to keep in mind is the variance, no matter how high the RTP of a game is, you can spend days, weeks and tens of thousands of spins afterward never getting an exceptional multiplier, and the opposite can also happen: getting a very high multiplier. having only played for a couple hundred spins. But as I said before: if you feel that the RTP of the games is reduced, you are probably correct because there are casinos that reduce the RTP of the games, it is best to play in other casinos that do offer the original RTP of each game.

Una cosa que debes tener en mente es la varianza, por muy alto que sea el RTP de un juego puedes pasar días, semanas y decenas de miles de giros después nunca conseguir un multiplicador excepcional, y también puede pasar lo contrario: conseguir un multiplicador altísimo habiendo jugado solo por un par de centenas de giros. Pero como dije antes: si sientes que el RTP de los juegos está reducido probablemente estés en lo correcto porque sí existen casinos que reducen el RTP de los juegos, lo mejor es juegues en otros casinos que sí ofrecen el RTP original de cada juego.

I played again on purpose and he gave me again several high bonuses for more than x200 and it does not pay accordingly, games that I know pay and more if they are high bonuses but this is horrible I do not understand why this is so, last night they gave me a bonus because supposedly I applied 4000 and some pesos for that, nothing because that didn't last me at all since it doesn't pay it's a shame and that nobody does anything I don't understand the truth, I would like to talk to someone who I can send screenshots of what I am saying because nobody believes me like this and the one who looks bad is me and this cannot be, taking bonuses for that amount and not paying as it should seems more than a shame to me and seeing in each game that the volatility is high and I did not pay it even more shame, I am so angry and nobody should worry and do nothing or report what is happening.

volví a jugar al propósito y me dio otra ves varios bonus altos por mas de x200 y no paga como corresponde, juegos que yo se que pagan y mas si son bonus altos pero esto es horrible no entiendo porque es así esto, anoche me dieron un bonus porque supuestamente aplicaba para eso 4000 y algo de pesos ósea nada porque eso me duro nada ya que no paga es una vergüenza y que nadie haga nada no entiendo la verdad, quisiera hablar con alguien al que le pueda mandar capturas de lo que yo estoy diciendo porque así nadie me cree y el que queda mal soy yo y esto no puede ser , agarrar bonus por esa cantidad y que no pague como debe me parece mas que una vergüenza y ver en cada juego que la volatilidad es alta y no lo pague mas vergüenza todavía , tengo un enojo tan grande y que nadie se preocupe y haga nada ni denuncie lo que esta pasando.

If you are convinced the casino is not paying out bets per spin correctly, I would provide those screenshots to the game provider instead.

Honestly, I do not fully understand the merit of your posts, so I'm just guessing the issue, at the moment.

You may also be demotivated by recent losses or your overall experience rather than wrongly calculated winnings. I'll wait to see whether I catch the point later on.

1- impossible to talk to the game provider

2- it does not pay several bonuses come out and I buy several bonuses and it is the same, it does not pay as it should in high bets

3- you don't have to guess anything, I ask to report these pages that do not pay correctly since I play there I try to win something anyway but it can't, I don't understand who really wins there

3- It is not demotivation, but rather that I really lost a lot and at no time did I pay anything or recover a minimum of nothing at all

4- The point is to denounce and stop defending the casinos that say they do not manipulate when if they manipulate it in plain sight, play, get bonuses and they will realize it on their own, then do the calculations according to the percentages and it will give them what They do not pay anything for more than in the same game I say a percentage that does not exist because it is not real then why so much return to the matter, now I ran out of money to play, when I play again I will show you and that's it, it's easy but to the game administrator it is impossible.

1- imposible hablar con el proveedor del juego

2- no paga salen varios bonus y compro varios bonus y es lo mismo no paga como debería en apuestas altas

3- no hay que adivinar nada pido denunciar a estas paginas que no pagan correctamente desde que juego ahí intento de todas formas ganar algo pero no se puede, no entiendo quienes ganan ahí realmente

3- no es desmotivación si no que realmente perdí mucho y en ningún momento pago nada ni recupere un mínimo nada de nada en lo absoluto

4- el punto es denunciar y que dejen de defender a los casinos que dicen que no manipulan cuando si manipulan esta a la vista , jueguen saquen bonus y solos van a darse cuenta, luego hagan los cálculos según los porcentajes y les va a dar que no pagan nada por mas que en el mismo juego diga un porcentaje que no existe porque no es real entonces porque tanta vuelta al asunto, ahora me quede sin dinero para jugar, cuando vuelva a jugar les muestro y listo es fácil pero al administrador del juego es imposible.